How was your collaboration with the composer, Rastin Hastiparast? What guidance did you give him?
Working with Rastin was a very big event for me. You could say that Rastin Hastiparast is one of my old friends, but collaborating with him in the field of music caused a change within me that became completely clear in my latest work, Between Two Words — meaning, I was able to trust. I could capture many of the images and simply think that Rastin would complete them. And I can say that working with musicians, especially in the realm of film, is very difficult. Those who work in music, especially in cinema, each want to insert their own perspective, because they, too, are creating; they are, in a way, directing as well. They also want their own vision to be present. But what happened between me and Rastin was that we reached a shared vision, and this was very valuable for me. In both projects that I worked on with him, we reached a unified and mutual vision. I didn’t give him specific instructions — rather, I conveyed the emotional expression I had for each scene and my concerns related to it. The good thing that is happening between me and Rastin is that we are getting closer; we both would reach a point where sometimes I couldn’t even express something with words, yet Rastin could convey it through his music. And that is very pleasurable for me.
Where was the final scene filmed, and what feeling do you want the audience to experience at the end?
The final sequence of the film was shot on the terrace of a building complex, and I truly think it should evoke a feeling of liberation — because the camera becomes free, Leila is free, snow is falling; even nature itself seems liberated. And we arrive at a pine tree, and I really loved this feeling. I thought that maybe sometimes, liberation comes from freeing ourselves from thoughts of emotions and loves that are, let’s say, personal or self-destructive. Meaning, sometimes we don’t love someone in order to add something to our lives or to add something to theirs; rather, we are trying to prove something to ourselves. Loves that involve ownership, or loves aimed at proving something — just like in the screenplay, where it says: you love this person [Saman] with these exact f laws, and if these flaws weren’t there, you might not love him anymore. There is release. I think, for me, it was that Leila needed to be freed from this thought, from this weakness, from this fear. That’s why, for me, the final sequence is about liberation.
In which medium do you feel more comfortable: film or theater?
I used to be much closer to theater, but now I understand film much more deeply. I think there is much more imagination flowing in film, and the director has far more freedom to express everything they want to say. In theater, we create something, we build an imagination, but various elements are involved trying to present it as a unified experience. Whereas in film, you can, through découpage, editing, lighting, cinematography — through all of these — create an imagination, or rather, I should say, a world. You can build a world that belongs entirely to you, and that is very enjoyable for me. And I think the film medium is much more comfortable for me.